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Anyone use The Sufferfest? I stopped after they switched to a subscription-based app only since I bought many of their original videos.
Andy Coggan (co-author of Training and Racing with a Power Meter) is a bit peeved
on ST and in the comments of the
article on Bike Radar.
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Thinking of using the trial next month. The four elements seems curious.
Will be interested to hear how this goes. Trying to figure out if I'm going to do Zwift this winter or not.
I've now decided that I must take a stand. For the next two weeks of skipping my bike workouts, I will exclusively skip Sufferfest workouts, and simultaneously not upload my skipped workouts to my TP account.
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I am legitimately curious - it seems like a pretty reasonable way to make canned workouts even more specific. I think I will give the app a go soon, though I feel really guilty letting Trainer Road lapse, since I find their podcast so useful.
AC has had these tirades before.
I'm an angel with an incredible capacity for beer
He isn't giving any credit to SUF for the packaging, the test protocol, the retooling of the app to calculate power targets from different settings, and frankly for building on monetizing his work in a way that he didn't. (So I totally agree with you on that one)
He's a bitter old asshole and because he can't win rhetorically he's defaulted to invective. Comparing McQuillen to Weinstein was just out there. All he is doing at this point is digging a hole and hurting any brand that is associated with him. SUF and WKO4 actually look great. They are responsive and professional and are doing themselves proud right now.
https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/new-training-methodologies-road-ahead/
He isn't giving any credit to SUF for the packaging, the test protocol, the retooling of the app to calculate power targets from different settings, and frankly for building on monetizing his work in a way that he didn't. (So I totally agree with you on that one)
He's a bitter old asshole and because he can't win rhetorically he's defaulted to invective. Comparing McQuillen to Weinstein was just out there. All he is doing at this point is digging a hole and hurting any brand that is associated with him. SUF and WKO4 actually look great. They are responsive and professional and are doing themselves proud right now.
I went and read that. I'm sorry I did, but it seems to me that he is also claiming credit for a power profile testing setup that wasn't exactly his idea either - he may have adapted it for cycling (and I tend to doubt that he was the first to do so.)
From a rowing background, the Danish program was doing power profile testing for their athletes in the early 1990s - the first paper published was 1994 - testing over 10 seconds / 1 minute / 2 km / 20 min (or 6km / 1 hour.
Based on what I'd just read coming out of Coggan's keyboard, I'd not read his and Allen's book, or use anything that he was associated with - I'd use Sufferfest because they piss him off, and Trainingpeaks because they disavowed him.
And I use GoldenCheetah for all my serious stuff (which has been about 7 workouts this year). It's free!! And has tons of analysis tools if you know what you're looking at. W' is a good indicator for knowing how many matches you've burned and how horrible the next couple days are going to feel.
You won't need a 2nd account for GVA here.
Kelly Lentz
TRS Canada Chapter
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