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Principle #1: The cheaters are (almost) always ahead of the testers. The hardest thing for people to understand is that negative test results truly don't mean a thing. They really don't. Whether or not an athlete has never tested positive is absolutely, completely and totally irrelevant. Marion Jones passed 162 drug tests during a period of time when she was using a designer steroid, EPO and HGH.See all of this text? Yeah, this is about 1/100th of what the OP had written on the topic. I had to cut it down for brevity’s sake-there's no way I could have explained it all in any concise way. This is more to my point. You all don’t have a clue. I have recorded what amounts to a lake of research on this topic and it won’t even scratch the surface of the ocean of truth that’s still out there. But, from here on out, think back to these principles. If you want to know who's doping and who's not. Which is nearly everybody in a sport that pays actual good money.
Principle #2: Doped up athletes are good for business. If you want to sell more tickets and attract more eyeballs to more TV sets, then doped athletes will unquestionably help your bottom line. It is also true of governing bodies. As I have posted before, our own governing body performed pre-testing prior to the 1984 Olympic Trials and Olympics in order to aid our own athletes and avoiding detection
Principle #3: You should never be surprised by who tests positive. The most surprising thing about a positive test is that someone actually slipped up and got caught. The very best quote I've ever seen regarding this point was by KevinM when he said in reference to Floyd Landis that "When the Amish kid tests positive, no one can be above suspicion."
Principle #4: Cheaters are extremely skilled liars
Principle #5: I can't define it but I know it when I see it. (author’s note: these are the OP’s words, not mine. He/She is more involved in this sort of culture)
Principle #6: Logic means nothing, and everything. This is the part that most people can't get past. They apply logic to PEDs ("it doesn't make sense that they would use PEDs because . . .") PED use doesn't conform to our logic.
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- SPIEGEL: With Marion Jones ...
Heredia: ... it was about the recovery phases. In 2000 she competed in one event after another, and she needed to relax. I gave her epo, growth hormone, adrenaline injections, insulin. Insulin helps after training, together with protein drinks: insulin transports protein and minerals more quickly through the cell membrane.
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- Heredia: With precision. You want an example? Everyone talks about epo. Epo is fashionable. But without adding iron, epo only works half as well. That’s the kind of thing you have to know. There are oxygen carriers that make epo work incredibly fast – they are actually better than epo alone. I call my drug “Epo Boost.” I inject it and it releases many tiny oxygen molecules throughout the body. In that way you increase the effect of epo by a factor of ten.
- Heredia: Oh yes, of course. There are tablets for the kidneys that block the metabolites of steroids, so when athletes give a urine sample, they don’t excrete the metabolites and thus test negative. Or there is an enzyme that slowly consumes proteins - epo has protein structures, and the enzyme thus ensures that the B sample of the doping test has a completely different value than the A sample. Then there are chemicals that you take a couple of hours before the race that prevent acidification in the muscles. Together with epo they are an absolute miracle. I’ve created 20 different drugs that are still undetectable for the doping testers.
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Heredia: It’s a small world. It gets around who can provide you with something how quickly and at what price, who is discreet. The coaches approached me and asked if I could help them, and I said: yes. Then they gave me money, $15,000 or thereabouts, we got a first shipment and then we did business. At some point it led to one-on-one cooperation with the athletes.
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SPIEGEL: Was there a regimen of sorts?
Heredia: Yes. I always combined several things. For example, I had one substance called actovison that increased blood circulation – not detectable. That was good from a health standpoint and even better from a competitive standpoint. Then we had the growth factors IGF-1 and IGF-2. And epo. Epo increases the number of red blood cells and thus the transportation of oxygen, which is the key for every athlete: the athlete wants to recover quickly, keep the load at a constantly high level and achieve a constant performance.
SPIEGEL: Once again: a constant performance at the world-class level is unthinkable without doping?
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SPIEGEL: Testosterone, growth hormone, epo – that was your combination?
Heredia: Yes, with individual variations. And then amazing things are possible. In 2002 Jerome Young was ranked number 38 in the 400 meters. Then we began to work together, and in 2003 he won almost every big race.
SPIEGEL: How were you paid?
Heredia: I had an annual wage. For big wins I got a $40,000 bonus.
SPIEGEL: Your athletes have won 26 Olympic medals. How much money did you earn?
Heredia: I can’t answer that due to the investigations. But let’s put it this way: 16 to 18 successful athletes each year at between $15,000 and $20,000 per athlete. I had a good run. I had a good life.
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SPIEGEL: Is there doping at every level of athletics?
Heredia: Yes, the only difference is the quality of the doping. Athletes with little money use simple steroids and hope they don’t get tested. The stars earn 50,000 dollars a month, not including starting bonuses and shoe sponsorship contracts. The very best invest 100,000 dollars – I’ll then build you a designer drug that can’t be detected.
SPIEGEL: Explain how this works.
Heredia: Designer drugs are composed of several different chemicals that trigger the desired reaction. At the end of the chain I change one or two molecules in such a way that the entire structure is undetectable for the doping testers.
....yeah, just re- read the thread. Still not seeing it. Saw that you were appalled, but yeah. I believe you though.Dude, I did.
Anyways, @Uli, why didn't you say that in the first place
Sounds like the ultra secret 24-18-12-6 challenge. Match an activity with a number and complete all of them in 24hrs. Activities: donuts, miles(run), beers, pleasuring yourself.Fuck, reverse the activities and that's an exact copy of my day today.
e.g: 24 miles run, 18 beers, 12 donuts, 6 times stroking the twinkie
FOR the record: Milwaukee is good but not great.Yeah, because Milwaukee was sooo awesome.Probably in my top 5 US cities and I've visited or lived in a ton.
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Great Isuenu.
This... This intrigues me. Can you explain this further?Felt like the new format cramped the old style a little and ruined the conversational flow just a bit. Barrie's "ITU minute" was great- maybe someone else can come in for a long course one?Yes, when you change something, the thing that it used to be is no longer the same.
Music was good, though